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Camshaft timing is where a 7AGE gets tricky. Any 7AGE has inherently incorrect camshaft timing because the distance between the crankshaft and camshafts is increased by a distance that is not an even multiple of the tooth pitch of the timing belt.
When Toyota created the 7A-FE, they started with the basic 4A layout, but increased the stroke and made the 7A block 15.4mm taller than the 4A block. The stock 7A block also puts the pistons 0.6mm below deck height at top dead center (TDC) because the 7A-FE head gasket is only 0.6mm thick. To use a 4AGE head gasket, machine (deck) the 7A block by 0.6mm. Deck height will now be 14.8mm taller than a 4A block.
The taller block moves the camshafts farther away from the crankshaft. With a 14.8mm net increase in deck height, the tangent points (where the timing belt effectively makes contact) of the crankshaft’s timing pulley and the exhaust camshaft pulley are farther apart by 14.5mm in a 7A-GE than they were in a 4A-GE.
Timing belt pitch is 3/8″ (9.525mm) on a 4AGE; each tooth on the timing belt is 9.525mm apart, center to center. Divide 14.5 by 9.525 to get 1.52; the cam timing is “off” by 1.52 teeth. We can move the cam pulley relative to the belt by one full tooth, leaving the camshaft pulley 0.52 teeth ahead of the position Toyota wanted it in, relative to the crankshaft.
This disparity at the camshaft is the reason a 7A-GE normally has very wrong camshaft timing.
There are 36 teeth on each cam pulley. Each tooth represents ten degrees at the camshaft and twenty degrees at the crankshaft (valve events are always discussed in crankshaft degrees). Multiply the 0.52-tooth figure times twenty crankshaft degrees per tooth gives a 10.4 degree advance on both camshafts. You could also install either camshaft 9.6 crank degrees retarded by moving them one tooth back. Either way, it’s wrong.
There’s another problem. With any 4A-GE head, the distributor is driven by one of the camshafts. If your cams are mistimed by a given number of degrees, so is your ignition timing. The bad camshaft timing of a typical 7A-GE is made worse by also messing up the ignition timing.
Correcting the valve timing on a 7AGE can be done one of two ways:
The first way is to compensate for it with adjustable cam gears. This works, but your baseline (starting point) is still off. In other words, since you have to move the cams by ten crank degrees just to get to “zero”, your starting position is not what it is marked at on the cam gear. You’ll have to remember how much it’s offset by if you want to know where your cams really are in relation to the crank. Another drawback is that you will use up about ten degrees (again, as measured at the crank) of your new cam gears’ adjustment range just getting the cams back to the correct starting point.
A better way to correct the cam timing is to re-index the crankshaft timing gear by having a machine shop broach a new keyway into the gear, so that when the gear is installed, the new keyway retards the gear by 10.4 degrees. This operation would automatically put the cam timing back where it is supposed to be, even with stock cam gears. If you’re using adjustable cam gears, this would put their zero point back where it belongs and let you use the full adjustment range. Since ignition timing is directly dependent on camshaft timing, getting the cam timing set to its default position automatically makes it easier to set the ignition timing correctly.
Unfortunately, many people build cheap-and-dirty 7A-GEs by throwing their 4A-GE head on a worn-out 7A-FE bottom end. They are usually disappointed with the results and typically dismiss the 7A-GE as a bad performer that will doesn’t like to rev. Correcting the cam timing would restore a lot of the performance they are missing. A well-built 7AGE can produce a broad, usable torque curve with plenty of power up top. It’s much like an equivalent 4AGE with more power everywhere.
Al Mills
January 18, 2017 at 4:04 PMI want to try (2) 7a can gear and find a belt to fit. Do you feel that will work?
SV3Power
February 4, 2017 at 1:50 PMAl,
No.
Morsalin
November 10, 2014 at 11:52 PMnice write up! but i need a little help.
i am using 4age BT oil pump and tensioner , so can you please suggest me which timing belt to use? i have read on some other forum that isuzu trooper 115 tooth timimg belt can be used.
And will the angle at which the crank will be advanced still be 10.4 if i use different oil pump, tensioner and timing belt?
TIA
SV3Power
December 6, 2014 at 12:47 PMI don’t know anything about the Trooper belt, and I haven’t looked into using a BT oil pump or tensioner. You might ask Matrix Garage about that combination. He’s always digging up new information and coming up with combinations.
cj
July 16, 2014 at 9:15 AMWhat timing belt are you using in reference to this article?
Thanks,
SV3Power
July 22, 2014 at 1:21 PMI used a Porsche 944 timing belt, Goodyear number 40107 or equivalent. You have to use the 7A-FE oil pump and timing belt tensioner along with the Porsche belt. Take a look at my 7A-GE build articles for more details.
Robin
July 8, 2014 at 2:59 PMWhere can a re-indexed crank pulley
SV3Power
July 12, 2014 at 9:58 AMI believe you can have Yoshi at http://www.matrixgarage.com/ make one for you!
Thomas
June 2, 2014 at 1:40 AMVery well written and very helpful too.
Thanks